ST: 377A debate and the rewriting of pluralism
Published October 29th, 2007 in Homosexuality, SingaporeI thought Janadas Devan wrote a really good rebuttal to Ms Thio in ST. Finally, something from ST’s writers that is from their heart. Yes, some people accused the writer as being too personal, but did we for any moments thought that Ms Thio was being objective? In fact, to me, her passion and conviction for the subject (and maybe her dressing), seems to suggest to me that this subject is more personal to her than what she would reveal to the public or ,god forbid, her church mates.
27 Oct 2007
Thinking Aloud
377A debate and the rewriting of pluralism
By Janadas Devan
I CONFESS: I found the parliamentary debate on Section 377A of the Penal Code exceedingly depressing. It is no fun at all finding oneself holding a view - I believe the provision is odious and should be scrapped - with so little support. Of the 82 PAP MPs, only 3-1/2 expressed views that resembled mine - Mr Charles Chong, Mr Hri Kumar and Mr Baey Yam Keng. The half was Ms Indranee Rajah, who suggested 377A might be scrapped at some point, only not in this century. Her citation of how long it took to end slavery suggested we might have to wait roughly 2,500 years.
Of the nine NMPs, only one, Mr Siew Kum Hong, who presented the citizens’ petition calling for the repeal of 377A, stood up for homosexuals. And among the three opposition MPs, none did.
My depression was infinitely deepened when I read NMP Thio Li-Ann’s parliamentary phillipic - entitled Two Tribes Go To (Culture) War - as well as her Insight article yesterday. She was brilliant, incisive, learned, witty and civil. The ‘moral conservative majority’ has found a formidable warrior - notice that ‘War’; and my side - the immoral liberal minority? - was left looking stupid, speechless, confused, sour-faced and uncivil. Consider how she tore to shreds so many of our cherished beliefs. The idiots that we are, we had believed ‘pluralism’ meant, among other things, ‘autonomy and retention of identity for individual bodies’, a ’society in which the members of minority groups maintain their independent cultural traditions’, ‘a system that recognises more than one ultimate principle or kind of being’, as the Oxford English Dictionary puts it.
But we were wrong. ‘Democratic pluralism,’ Prof Thio wrote incisively yesterday, ‘welcomes every view in public discussion, but does not commit the intellectual fallacy of saying every view is right. The goal is to ascertain the right view for the circumstances.’ That means that under certain circumstances - to be determined by whatever passes for the majority at any moment, I suppose - pluralism can insist on a singular ‘ultimate principle or kind of being’.
We silly fellows had also misunderstood the nature of secularism. We had thought it meant separation of religion from the state, politics and public policy. We were wrong. As Prof Thio explained trenchantly in her ‘culture war’ speech: ‘Religious views are part of our common morality. We separate ‘religion’ from ‘politics’ but not ‘religion’ from ‘public policy’ (emphasis mine).
I never knew that! I had always assumed that it was necessary to separate religion from politics as well as public policy, for it was impossible to separate public policy from politics, and both from the state. But it turns out my assumption was baseless.
Jawaharlal Nehru, a Brahmin who insisted on untouchability being banned in the Indian Constitution despite the opposition of many caste Hindus, simply did not understand a thing about secularism. Bishop Desmond Tutu, a Methodist who insisted that discrimination against homosexuals be prohibited in the South African Constitution, was similarly clueless. And all those Enlightenment chaps in powdered wigs who insisted on the separation of church and state in the United States - in part, because there was no ‘common morality’ among religions - well, silly fellows, they knew nothing.
Yes, I must admit, Prof Thio demolished my side with astonishing ease.
First, her big guns - pluralism is not plural; secularism can be religiously informed - left us limbless. Then, equally impressively, the cultural warrior sliced and diced us with her rapier wit and uncommon civility. We were finally left with our torsos tossed into ideological ditches and our heads stuck on cultural pikes.
‘To say a law is archaic is merely chronological snobbery,’ she thundered, referring to 377A. That sent me reeling. So original! So conclusive! So brilliant!
‘Chronological snobbery’ was first coined by Owen Barfield and C.S.
Lewis, two eminent British popular theologians. It first appeared in print, I think, in Lewis’ moving spiritual autobiography, Surprised By Joy. Lewis and Barfield coined it to stigmatise modern ‘intellectual fashions’ that they thought consigned unfairly religious faith to a seemingly unregenerate past.
Prof Thio, a most learned person, must have known of the origin of this phrase in theological controversy, and she brilliantly extended it to the law. And if one linked this extension to the profound truths she uncovered about public policy in a secular state, one would see how her stigmatisation of ‘chronological snobbery’ can be extended further still. All those in favour of teaching ‘intelligent design’ alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, raise your hands. Done!
Education Ministry, please take note.
Then there was her wit, deployed so civilly. Anal sex is like ’shoving a straw up your nose to drink’, she said. A colleague of mine googled that and discovered it was an often cited image in American anti-gay pamphlets. To top that, she said 377A must be kept on the books so we can say ‘Majullah Singapura’, not ‘Mundur Singapura’. If you did not get the joke, here is a clue: Mundur means ‘backward’ in Malay, and ‘backward’ here alludes to that ’straw’ and another orifice. See? Now, isn’t that funny?
Oh, I cried when I read that. Imagine that: The moral conservative majority makes better vulgar jokes than the immoral liberal minority - and in Parliament too. If the immoral minority cannot beat the moral majority even in this department, we are really and truly kaput.
What sent me into shock was the discovery that Singapore is actually the US. I am referring to Prof Thio’s sources of inspiration. Google ‘culture war’ and you will discover them.
The term was made famous by Mr Patrick Buchanan, a right-wing conservative (many would say zealot) who challenged former president George H.W. Bush, a moderate, for the Republican presidential nomination in 1992. At the Republican convention that year, Mr Buchanan alarmed many Americans by declaring: ‘There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we will one day be as was the Cold War itself.’
Once one understands the milieu from which this statement issues, one would understand the origins of Prof Thio’s profound understanding of pluralism and secularism. It does not derive from the Enlightenment or from contemporary Europe or Asia. It derives from the American religious right. It is they who insist pluralism cannot ultimately be plural; it is they who demand public policy be informed by religious beliefs.
And all but a few thumped their seats when Prof Thio finished her speech? They must have missed the radical - yes, radical and extreme - nature of her claims. One person who did not, I think, was Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. My colleague Chua Mui Hoong reported he did not thump his seat.
That lifted my depression somewhat. I did not like one bit the upshot of the Prime Minister’s speech - that 377A will stay because the majority, especially Christians and Muslims, are opposed to its scrubbing. But I was proud of what he had to say, and how he said it.
There are ‘limits’, he said, for homosexuals in Singapore. But there would be limits too, in how religious beliefs are applied in the policing of homosexuals. Section 377A will not be applied ‘proactively’, he said - meaning, it will be inoperative. Mr Stuart Koe, chief executive of gay Asian portal Fridae.com, was wrong to liken 377A to a gun being put to the heads of homosexuals and not pulling the trigger. There is a gun, it remains symbolically loaded, but it has been laid down.
For that - a small victory - we have to thank old-fashioned pluralism, not Prof Thio’s radical rewriting of it. Some of us - our children, our friends, our siblings - have different sexual orientations, so let’s give them space.
For the rest - well, we will have to wait, but hopefully, not for 2,500 years.
8 Responses to “ST: 377A debate and the rewriting of pluralism”
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The scariest part was when a large number of MPs “applaused” in agreement! What has our government got into our parliament? A “conservative” malignancy?
I dread to think what this nation will rotten into when a “conservative” becomes the next PM! and the likelihood is very real! Just look at the number of “conservative” MPs!
“that what she would review to the public”
My dear, it should be “than” and “reveal”…
But I digress..
Yes, I thought it was brilliant. It was pointed out to me by a str8 christian friend. I initially skipped the article, thinking it is one of ‘those’…
Then my friend pointed it out and said it was different compared to his stance previously (where most of his articles where more in-line with what govt says)…
So, either :
(a) Janadas is so passionate about this that he pushed through the editors, or
(b) this IS inline with what the govt wants, just that many MPs object to it.. and govt has to do it slowly ?
GayInSg,
Thanks for the correction.
From what we have heard, there was neither resistance nor query from ST editors. This is something the Janadas wanted to write about (I know due to my sources). So I don’t think paps hands are in it.
VeryConcernSG,
yeah, I agree with you. This is the problem with group think and perhaps reflects on the rather large proportion of Abrahamic religion fellowers. Its PAPs own fault for hiring people who thinks and acts too much like each other, making it difficult for themselves to think critically about issues.
On your comment about adherents of Abrahamic religion, some qualification is lacking. Not all of them think the same way, and as for why there are more of teh in the Parliament, it could have less to do with PAP’s selection. There may be a lack of willing and able candidates from other religious groups. So possibly some self-selection is involved.
More to the point, I would like to bring your attention to Detenber’s work on self-censorship. It is on people stop speaking up if they think the views they hold is the minority view. If the study paints an accurate picture, it might be an important for you to consider if certain actions you may plan may hurt your cause. If you think it relevant drop me an email zhaoqin_@hotmail.com
As an unrelated point on your earlier post, is it true that the Buddha did not single out homosexuals for commiting immoral actions? Would any text shed light on it? Could you give more positive evidence for Buddhist tolerance for gays rather than the lack of special mention of this group? I appreciate that it is laudable if Buddhists are culturally more accepting of diversity, but for the misguided person that you posted about, scriptual support might be more important to change his mind.
Hi YCK,
I guess I put 2 statements on the same paragraph, but I really meant them to be separate.
The first statement about group thinking and the larger proportion of Abrahamic religion was a reply to the thumping of the chairs. I agree with you that not all from the religious streak may think alike and can have different opinions in the Parliament and from recent conversations, there is also a possibility that the “thumping” was actually part of the party whip. So my initial assertion may well be incorrect.
The second statement about PAP’s fault, I meant to talk about the ability of PAP to turn and flex, because they hired people that think like them, not that they hire more people from the Abrahamic religion. Sorry for the confusion.
And on your point about Buddha and homosexuality. The monastic codes actually list a lot of issues that surfaced during Buddha’s time and these includes monks/nuns who had intimate relations with each other. We must not forget that during his time, monks/nuns vow to be celibate, so any sexual encounter is forbidden. However, if you look at the major rules, it simply states that any monk or nun who have a sexual relation with penetration are liable of disrobing. Gay sex was not singled out from the rules. For this first part, we can see that Buddha (and the society during his times) knew about men having sex with each other (as evidence in the monastic code), but he treated it as the same offense as those having hetero-sex. And in the minor rules, men have close (intimate) relations with each other (no amounting to sex, I guess) were forbidden, but if a monk had close relation with a nun, it was a worst offense.
I have read a story in the scriptures about a young man who was so fascinated by the Buddha, that he became a monk to follow Buddha around daily. He noticed that and prompted taught him how to disregarded bodily attached. He did not condemn the person for his fascinated. In fact, how he handled that young man would be exactly how he would have handle a girl who is equally fascinated by the Buddha.
When the 5 precept for lay people was spoken, gay sex was never mentioned specifically as breaking the precept. Because if it were THAT important and its rather common in India, it would have been one of the precept. Instead, the 3rd precept only talked about sexual misconduct which includes adultery, rape and non-consensual sex. How could we conclude that? Because all “rules” in Buddhism always comes with a reasoning or situation behind it, its never just a rule and no questions asked. In applying the 3rd precept of sexual misconduct, the lay persons were asked if they were happy if someone has relationship with their spouse, or if someone rapes their daughters. If no, then one should also not do the same. This is the spirit of no harm.
It was only later commentators of the Buddhist scriptures that expanding on the term of sexual misconduct to include all other activities not leading to procreation or proper social behaviors at that time, which includes masturbation, not having sexual organs contact with other orifices, not have sex in the afternoon, etc. If we look at these set of explanation as a whole, we can see that its very cultural based and have not relevance to the act teachings. Even that, does not say its against gay sex, because the part about the orifice applies to everyone. What is interesting is that it is not a sexual misconduct to engage and have sex in a prostitute if it were paid by a 3rd party. How lucky for the men!
As for that posting on what Buddha said, it was not to rebuked the author’s take on gay sex, but rather that logic that the author used to arrive at the conclusion. Anyway, some people just love to dig their own graves, I’ll let them bury themselves afterwards.
That was a rather thoughful reply as a whole, but I would like to comment on a tiny part. As I had expressed elsewhere, I think that the fact that there is actual scriptural basis for claiming equitable treatment for all regardless of sexual orientation is not emphasized enough. I suspect prior to this readers of your previous entry might have assumed that the scriptures do not recognize the existence of homosexuals, thus miscontrued the supposed lack of reference to be the evidence of equitable treatment. This would of course mean that position is hardly tenable. I hope you have made it clear in other relevant posts.
As a digression, I was reading the Zaobao article by é»„æµ©å¨ quoted by yawningbread recently, and I made quite an interesting discovery about Thio. Her Chinese name is å¼ é»Žè¡. 黎 was defined by Times New Chinese Dictionary (1994) as 1. a surname 2. 黑darkness or blackness. è¡ is defined as 1. 伸展extending or å»¶é•¿prolonging 2. 多余excess or 多出superfluous.
I am just reporting it as I read.